"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury)
04/11/2019 at 13:50 • Filed to: None | 0 | 15 |
I visited a friend yesterday, the one who is dying of uterine cancer. She wanted to borrow an iPad so that she could write a few farewell letters to friends and family whilst in hospital. I’ve got a few of these devices so I had no problem cleaning one off and letting her use it for as long as she needs it. We spent a few hours together and she seems to have accepted her fate; our visits are pleasant and enjoyable, surprisingly devoid of the tears and sadness that one would expect to normally accompany such occasions.
Here’s the awkward part. Do I ask her for her iCloud username and password so that I can clean it off when she’s done with it? Since she’s put in her will that I am to receive her various electronic items (like me, she’s into all sorts of electronic gadgets), including her iPhone, should I have that information on file when the need eventually arises? I was thinking that perhaps she can provide it in an envelope, only to be opened after her death. This is a weird situation, and I’m not sure how to best handle it. Just like having to deal with your kid’s access to the internet, this is one of those new problems that one couldn’t have imagined just 25 short years ago.
CompactLuxuryFan
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 14:15 | 11 |
She can probably set this up through the attorney that will be handling her will, if she hasn’t already. I don’t think you need to directly ask “btw, can I get your iCloud password”, but you do need to bring up the issue of accessing a deceased person’s digital accounts , which is not uncommon at all nowadays. More than likely she will already be all set with the lawyer.
Honeybunchesofgoats
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 14:23 | 2 |
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204306
You can just do a forced reset.
Chariotoflove
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 14:26 | 1 |
If you need access to any stuff on her iCloud, you can ask her how she wants you to handle it. But if you’re just getting the devices and are going to wipe them clean, you don’t need her account passwords. You can wipe and reset the thing to baseline.
HammerheadFistpunch
> CompactLuxuryFan
04/11/2019 at 14:28 | 2 |
she should be made aware of the situation that someone should have it and that you should know who that person is but
i don’t think you’ll need to ask for it right now. she’ll figure out
a way to handle that
Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> Honeybunchesofgoats
04/11/2019 at 14:32 | 0 |
Does this deal with an iCloud lock? I thought these things were more secure than that. I won't have a backup of the iPhone, so that limits the options.
TheRealBicycleBuck
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 14:33 | 2 |
I dealt with this as my mom was passing. She gave me the usernames and passwords for all of her accounts. I still haven’t shut some of them down because I just can’t deal with getting in there and taking care of it.
It’s a little different than what you’re dealing with, but you should be aware that under the user policies, you accessing her account may not be allowed even if she gives you the passwords. That’s not to say that you can’t do it, just be aware that if some family member comes along and protests, you may have a problem.
Honeybunchesofgoats
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 14:42 | 0 |
It seems to, from what I’ve read, but I’ve never had to do it. DFU is usually used when the firmware is corrupted beyond repair, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. If you have a spare anyway, it might be worth trying it out with your own account. Otherwise, I’m sure a quick call to Apple customer service could give you a definite answer.
This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 14:44 | 2 |
I don't have much input on that that hasn't been given, but the cancer jokes that have been getting thrown around here lately make me really question things. Especially considering we have at least two oppos suffering from it, one of whom is terminal. Real funny, right? Not to be thin skinned or anything, but for a community of supposedly woke people I expected better.
E92M3
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 14:45 | 0 |
Why not just do a factory reset? I wouldn’t want anyone looking thru all my emails, pic s, etc... when I’m gone. I’d probably save a bunch of stuff to an ex ternal hd , or a newly created google drive for my son if I had advanced notice of my death.
Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
04/11/2019 at 14:56 | 3 |
And I’m one of those Oppos suffering from it, although in my case it’s (probably) cured. Chemo’s a bitch, but I’m dealing with it. FWIW, I’m personally not bothered by the humor regarding the subject. If anything I try to find a little humor in the subject myself, such as the fact that my left colon is damaged and causes painful diverticulitis flare-ups, yet it's my right colon where the tumor was found. After all the surgery I still have that damaged part that can still cause no end of trouble, but on the bright side they yanked my appendix whilst poking around in there so at least I never have to worry about appendicitis...
Captain of the Enterprise
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 15:18 | 2 |
I’m sorry to hear about this. Maybe ease into it by asking if she would like you to do anything with her data and then get the passwords for that.
Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 16:00 | 0 |
This is a regular thing I have to worry about.
The correct solution is to record both passwords and recovery questions in writing, collect them into something under controlled access (e.g. sealed envelope with the LAWYER as CONFIDENTIAL NOT PRIVILEGED and NOT the executor,) specify recipient in the will, and specify that it is to REMAIN SEALED and is ONLY to be opened by the ultimate recipient.
If it’s specified as PRIVILEGED information (that is, covered by client-attorney relationship) the lawyer may not be able to release the envelope to you. If it’s CONFIDENTIAL, anyone who opens it can get in serious legal trouble. The executor of the will (who that is varies by city/county/state/country) is bound by law to provide the information still under seal .
It is absolutely critical to have ANY and ALL recovery information in there. That includes stuff like challenge questions and answers. Passwords change, PINs change. Without the recovery information, you’re screwed. With it, you can recover the accounts.
Also be aware that basically all of the behemoths (Failbook, Google, Apple, etc.) give less than no fucks about a death certificate, and even fewer about court orders. So it is especially important to get the account and recovery details for those.
Stef Schrader
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/11/2019 at 17:21 | 1 |
*hugs* I’m sorry, man.
I think if she’s open about using an iPad to wrap things up, it’ll be fine if you tactfully
ask for a password list.
Stef Schrader
> This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
04/11/2019 at 17:24 | 1 |
Yeeeeeeeah...there’s been a couple times I’ve caught myself either not laughing at or not wanting to call something “literally cancer” or whatever. It’s just not funny right now, and the more I think of it, the more it feels like a punch down that wasn’t cool to begin with.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
04/12/2019 at 06:58 | 0 |
not unreasonable in today’s electronic age.